May 11 16:04:28 photomatt http://codex.wordpress.org/IRC_Meetups#Suggested_Topics
May 11 16:04:37 photomatt still time to add things if there's anything anybody wanted to cover
May 11 16:04:51 photomatt just a brief catch-up from action items from last week
May 11 16:04:58 photomatt 1.5.1 was released
May 11 16:05:07 ryanduff yay!
May 11 16:05:10 photomatt no updates to the logo yet, but I hear *color* might be coming soon
May 11 16:05:20 jonabad oooooo
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May 11 16:05:29 carthik okay, got my late edit in
May 11 16:05:31 RandyWalker w00t
May 11 16:05:38 photomatt haven't gotten to the action items for the forums yet, got caught up with life and release stuff
May 11 16:05:38 westi evening all
May 11 16:05:41 Pplproof I had something to add to that, actually.
May 11 16:06:03 photomatt Pplproof: yes?
May 11 16:06:25 carthik On the logo, I think this would be an easily reproduced, versatile, short logo : < WordPress />
May 11 16:06:30 photomatt also, didn't sell WordPress to Google this week
May 11 16:06:37 photomatt though I did look into the wp.com domain from Yahoo
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May 11 16:06:46 photomatt which is *significantly* out of our price range
May 11 16:06:57 skippy how much?
May 11 16:06:57 RandyWalker :\
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May 11 16:07:06 photomatt 1mm+
May 11 16:07:14 westi ouch
May 11 16:07:15 photomatt maybe post-IPO
May 11 16:07:15 twistedraisin dear lord
May 11 16:07:25 Firas we'll get it one day :D
May 11 16:07:26 photomatt however the transfer of wordpress.com is pending
May 11 16:07:28 skippy pshaw. for two little lettes? Not even vowels...
May 11 16:07:37 Blackb|rd photomatt: mm being what? million $ US?
May 11 16:07:49 Pplproof Concerning the graphic elements, and being as I've never had a chance to touch base with anyone about it yet, are they something that's open to community contribution? My fianceee and I are both graphic artists by trade, and were looking to come up with some ideas, but weren't sure how long along in the process you were, or if you were open to "outside help".
May 11 16:07:54 photomatt Blackb|rd: didn't really get to exact figures, the range was already a bit high
May 11 16:08:00 Denis_de sorry for missing the start but... what is out of price range?
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May 11 16:08:06 Blackb|rd photomatt: jeez. "too expensive"
May 11 16:08:07 Firas Denis_de: wp.com domain
May 11 16:08:27 Blackb|rd Denis_de: price for wp.com. >=1e06 $
May 11 16:08:40 RandyWalker lol
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May 11 16:08:50 photomatt Pplproof: it's on its fifth iteration or so, so it's getting fairly close to what I think will be the final logo
May 11 16:09:06 MCincubus photomatt, derivatives of the first logos you showed?
May 11 16:09:07 photomatt we did have some other community submissions, all of which were quite good
May 11 16:09:10 Semiologic Blackbird -- i can imagine :)
May 11 16:09:12 photomatt but didn't fit the project as well
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May 11 16:09:52 photomatt the new logo is going to be more of an evolution rather than a completely new aesthetic
May 11 16:10:00 carthik photomatt, consider < WordPress /> too, if you will - simple, and in keeping with Semantic, Standards Compliant etc...
May 11 16:10:16 photomatt carthik: we actually had a submission that did that! maybe I can forward it to you
May 11 16:10:17 masquerade carthik, note quite, it has uppercases
May 11 16:10:21 Firas carthik: too geeky.. and chained to xml
May 11 16:10:41 photomatt what I do hope to be able to do is be able to find uses for the submitted logos, even if they're not the main WP look
May 11 16:10:42 masquerade s/note/not
May 11 16:10:55 Pplproof How many entry-level users are really going to "Get" that...?
May 11 16:11:03 twistedraisin alternate logos for possible prepackaged themes, matt?
May 11 16:11:06 masquerade photomatt, maybe post them for public display, and let theme authors include one that matches their theme well?
May 11 16:11:12 carthik like 6A has the 6 dots and the wrench(spanner), more than one could be good. Not everyone has to get it immediately...
May 11 16:11:30 MCincubus carthik, yeah. And AOL and the "A" and the "buddy guy"
May 11 16:11:38 photomatt my fav logos are things like FedEx, with the hidden arrow
May 11 16:11:50 skeltoac I noticed that very recently
May 11 16:11:58 MCincubus ... I totally never saw that
May 11 16:12:01 Firas hehe, photomatt wants a WP logo that you can spot on a truck 200ft away :D
May 11 16:12:09 photomatt the latest mockup also got a favorable review here: http://jefte.net/articles/wordpress-releases-1-5-1-and-logo-previews/
May 11 16:12:15 photomatt Firas: yes, think billboards and blimps :)
May 11 16:12:42 Heilemann Holy crap... There's a hidden arrow in there! Hah! Cool :D
May 11 16:13:02 photomatt the next suggested topic was changing the channel, which we already did
May 11 16:13:03 Pplproof The best logos can used equally effective in B&W, and can be used at ANY size...
May 11 16:13:03 photomatt so yay!
May 11 16:13:04 relle Side of an airplane....
May 11 16:13:07 skeltoac Wait, that's still the latest mockup? Nothing newer?
May 11 16:13:09 skippy may I ask why the W has a "bulb" on the right end in the logo? It looks ... odd.
May 11 16:13:12 ryanduff|laptop c'mon matt, you know you want it changed to "werd press" :P
May 11 16:13:18 photomatt skeltoac: nothing since last week
May 11 16:13:19 photomatt word.
May 11 16:13:43 photomatt skippy: it symbolizes what big heads we all have
May 11 16:13:52 Firas yeah, if opinions are counted, the bulb seems out of place
May 11 16:13:55 ColdForged O_o
May 11 16:13:55 skippy I didn't think you noticed!
May 11 16:14:07 carthik word.
May 11 16:14:13 carthik nice^^
May 11 16:14:23 carthik move on, though.
May 11 16:14:33 masquerade I don't necessarily "like" the bulb, but I think if it was removed it would look a little plain
May 11 16:14:42 Firas Possibility of assigning "positions or areas of responsiblity" for coordindation of the various Codex activities and assignments. Lorelle 22:39, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
May 11 16:14:45 photomatt as to the next topic, I'm open to more submissions, but probably the best designer time would go toward themes or coordiation with plugin authors
May 11 16:14:50 ryanduff|laptop it needs something, just not a bulb
May 11 16:14:51 Pplproof photomatt: If we're moving on, that's a subject I'd like to discuss more in-depth with you, if possible.
May 11 16:15:06 photomatt Pplproof: not necessary, what did you have in mind?
May 11 16:15:41 Pplproof Well, I'm just thinking a new user's first impressions to the logo...
May 11 16:15:52 Pplproof Choice of fonts, for instance.
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May 11 16:16:10 kylev dude, XML-as-logo is sooooooo 2002!
May 11 16:16:11 Pplproof Sorry, slipping into "designer" mode here, so bear with me... ;)
May 11 16:16:40 Pplproof What sort of attitude are you trying to convey with it?
May 11 16:16:57 Pplproof "professional", "forward thinking", "progressive"...?
May 11 16:16:58 photomatt well if you look at logos in general
May 11 16:17:08 photomatt and logos of other companies/products in our space
May 11 16:17:12 Blackb|rd as fort the bulby W: it may become the "Wordpress W" which i turn makes it easy to have really tiny logos signifying WP stuff.
May 11 16:17:16 photomatt on one end you have blogger, ultra friendly
May 11 16:17:20 photomatt Blackb|rd: exactly
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May 11 16:17:30 photomatt but Blogger is also a little comic-booky
May 11 16:17:37 photomatt they're like the Kia
May 11 16:17:45 photomatt we want to be the Lexus/Mercedes of blogging
May 11 16:17:48 MCincubus "Hey kids!!"
May 11 16:17:50 Pplproof Yes, they're designed to be ULTRA-accessible.
May 11 16:18:02 photomatt which I think is a good contrast to how FREE we are
May 11 16:18:04 relle photomatt: then the logo is perfect. The bulb in the middle looks like a car logo.
May 11 16:18:06 Pplproof You want to be the Lexus that still gets 50MPG...?
May 11 16:18:09 masquerade without the price
May 11 16:18:40 Blackb|rd and having decent typography also adds to a feeling of sophistication.
May 11 16:18:42 photomatt free but priceless
May 11 16:18:48 MCincubus The free Lexus that is yours to drive, if you don't mind a manual transmission.
May 11 16:18:50 factoryjoe photomatt: have you thought about the license on the font at all?
May 11 16:19:08 factoryjoe on problem with spreadfirefox was that everyone wants the FF Meta font...
May 11 16:19:18 factoryjoe which, b/c of copyright, we couldn't just give away...
May 11 16:19:22 photomatt factoryjoe: I'll probably end up buying it, I think it's < $30
May 11 16:19:23 factoryjoe mrs eaves is copyrighted
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May 11 16:19:33 factoryjoe yeah, that's for your *your* license
May 11 16:19:40 relle he's right.
May 11 16:19:42 Firas oh i recognize factoryjoe
May 11 16:19:42 photomatt we could certainly distribute vectors of the logo
May 11 16:19:48 factoryjoe by comparison, the drupal font is open source
May 11 16:19:50 photomatt without sending out the whole font
May 11 16:19:51 Blackb|rd photomatt: I think he meant for the countless ppl who want do acfepress T-Shirts
May 11 16:19:56 MCincubus yeah. you can't copyright fonts. Only the font files, I think.
May 11 16:19:58 factoryjoe photomatt: that's one option
May 11 16:20:14 photomatt after this is done I want so much schwag no one will know what to do
May 11 16:20:16 factoryjoe just wanted to make a note of that...
May 11 16:20:19 carthik photomatt, that would be nice and maybe even necessary
May 11 16:20:27 skeltoac shwag => ditto
May 11 16:20:27 photomatt not cafepress, maybe real shirts
May 11 16:20:28 skippy I didn't mean to hang us up on the bulb. It just seems incongruently curvy on an otherwise rigid serif character.
May 11 16:20:39 Blackb|rd photomatt: 'course, but you got what I meant
May 11 16:20:51 relle skippy: that's the contrast effect - it's a good thing.
May 11 16:21:00 photomatt speaking of shirts
May 11 16:21:02 * westi wants shwag too
May 11 16:21:07 Pplproof I have to agree with skippy on this.
May 11 16:21:08 Blackb|rd skippy: well, WP makes a difference, doesn't it?
May 11 16:21:12 skippy it strikes me as discordant, more than contrast.
May 11 16:21:20 photomatt we got an email a few days ago from http://www.spreadshirt.com/
May 11 16:21:24 factoryjoe i'm w/ skippy...
May 11 16:21:25 photomatt they want to promote themselves to bloggers
May 11 16:21:27 h3h where's the new logo?
May 11 16:21:27 factoryjoe what??!
May 11 16:21:37 Blackb|rd could be a smaller bulb, agreed.
May 11 16:21:41 MCincubus h3h, http://photomatt.net/temp/
May 11 16:21:56 relle photomatt: I personally (experienced voice here) like it. I didn't at first, but I see the potential. Bulb alone, words alone, all together, t-shirts, swatches, billboards - blogs, blogrolls, lots of versatility. Good work. Remember, a lot of work goes into these things, folks. And a lot of thought.
May 11 16:21:57 Blackb|rd photomatt: German Co., IIRC
May 11 16:22:03 h3h hmm. what's the significance of the bulb?
May 11 16:22:05 skeltoac Shrink that bulb too much, Blackb|rd, and you lose the distinctiveness that it needs.
May 11 16:22:06 photomatt please don't link to that URL in blogs, that is a temporary spot

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